Throw
the Rope, Don't Get In the Water!
An interview with Christopher Kennedy Lawford
by Barbara Nicholson-Brown
Recovery month has finally arrived and the Art of Recovery Expo is near! As a preview to the event we bring you our exclusive interview with this year’s keynote speaker, Christopher Kennedy Lawford. Don’t miss this dynamic speaker and advocate for recovery. (www.artofrecoveryexpo.com)
Lawford, the first-born child of President John F. Kennedy’s sister, Patricia, and famous Rat Pack actor, Peter Lawford grew up on both coasts and experienced the high life of Hollywood and the powerful world of politics....from a front row seat. He spent his early teen years experimenting with drugs and getting into all kinds of trouble, culminating in an addiction to heroin. Sober for more than 22 years, Lawford shared his personal story in his memoir Symptoms of Withdrawal with others in hopes of making a difference. He is also the author of Moments of Clarity and Healing Hepatitis C with Diane Slyvestre.
Do you have a specific message to our
younger generation who are faced with the challenges and curiosity of
"trying" alcohol or drugs?
CKL: Young people have to understand what they
perceive in a moment of adolescent bliss or experimentation may have serious
consequences for them down the road. If you said to them at 30, when you were
13, do you wish you would have done that? They may say no to using drugs and
alcohol. They need to realize one in ten will end up with a serious addiction
problem. If they have it in their family their odds of really having problems
with this go up dramatically. We know this from the science. The other thing
kids need to understand is that their brains are not fully developed. Even if
they binge drink or use drugs on occasion, but don’t become an alcoholic or
addict, there will still be an impact on their brain chemistry and there will be
some damage from that kind behavior. It’s not that they aren’t smart kids or
productive, creative people, but there are consequences to drug and alcohol
behavior, like the kind I engaged in. The consequences can sometimes be
immediate and they can be long.
With most of the kids I know, if you give them good
information they usually make good decisions. My kids have the genetics and have
experimented to a degree. I don’t think any of them thus far have manifested
any serious problems. That is because of the information they have gotten from
me and their mother firsthand, and the openness of our dialogue with them. Those
are significant things.
Kids are capable of understanding and I believe they
should be told the truth.
Since the high profile tragedy of Michael
Jackson and the media frenzy surrounding it, do you think this has changed the
public perception of addiction and its consequences?
CKL: Not at all! These things happen. Millions of
people die of this disease just like Michael Jackson did. It gets played in
media, people pay attention and then it goes away. This issue has been around
for a long time. Elvis and John Belushi died from this. The media doesn’t
change anything.
This is a fundamental issue that is determined
person to person—within families, within friendships and with society at a
grassroots level. People are going to get in trouble with drugs and alcohol,
they always have, and they will continue to get in trouble. Ten percent of the
population has the genetic predisposition to become an alcoholic or a drug
addict. This is going to continue.
The answer to this is not notoriety, it’s not
exposure. The answer is people talking honestly with one another about what
really is going on. That is what is going to change the landscape, and it’s
already happening. We have come a long way since I began my journey in 1969. We
need to dialogue around these issues regardless of the high profile person who
dies of this disease.
Let’s talk about the 800-pound gorilla in the living room. What advice can you give families who are facing this situation with their loved ones?
CKL: The biggest thing about drug and
alcohol is—it’s a family disease. If one person has an addiction, then the
whole family is sick. That is one of the most difficult things for people to
get. The "last person" to get somebody sober or to help somebody is a
family member. What I often say to families and people I care about is, "throw
the rope, don’t get in the water."
Go to treatment yourself; go to Alanon or programs
that will take care of you. Some of the great things happening today in
treatment is we don’t just treat the alcoholic—we treat the whole family.
Oftentimes an addict or alcoholic will go off to treatment and come back to the
same family dynamic and systems that they were in place before, and they will
start using again. So the message always has to be... the addict is not the only
problem. It has been my experience, if you’re the one helping you’re the
last one to get sober.
What do you think is necessary for the
conversation to begin?
CKL: These are really difficult things for people to
approach when someone is this sick. We pretend it’s not there, we go into
denial and we do things to protect ourselves. These are fundamental issues and
one of the reasons this is so difficult. It is not because of the addict or
alcoholic, it’s the underlying causes and conditions, perceptions and
attitudes that go on in families where addictions run rampant. Everyone has
stuff to work on and that’s why it is difficult to confront it. I think it’s
always a good idea to get someone involved in your family dynamic that is non
partisan, objective and a professional. It helps to do some kind of intervention
to get the ball going. It’s awfully difficult for families to take this on
themselves. Get someone smart who knows the business to come in and walk you
through you it.
Have you noticed any changes in the last
five years in regards to the stigma of addiction?
CKL: Yes to some degree. My cousin Patrick Kennedy (D.R.I.)
and Jim Ramstad (D.MN.) helped pass the Parity bill. He said we are going to get
this—complete parity on all levels of mental health and addiction. That’s
what we need. As a society, as soon as we start doing these kinds of things on
this level we take this out of the moral equation—which is there’s something
wrong with the alcoholic or the addict—into a place of disease—which is what
this is. This is a mental illness. People who suffer from addiction and
alcoholism are not at fault, they are not wrong, they are not bad people. They
are sick people who need treatment. Just like a diabetic or someone with chronic
hypertension who needs a treatment plan, so do alcoholics and addicts. Patrick
recently went back to treatment for his mental health. Stigma is all about blame
and a misunderstanding of what this is, the fear of not being able to get a
handle on it. As a society we’re getting there. I see steady progress, just as
cancer had a stigma 20 years ago and really none today, we will see this for
addiction in my lifetime.
What inspired you to write these books on
recovery? Symptoms of Withdrawal, Moments of Clarity and Healing Hepatitis C?
CKL: It wasn’t what I really wanted to do. At that
time I was involved in a novel, but the overwhelming need for a book of this
kind was there. I had no idea how many people in this country were looking for a
message of hope. I had no idea there were 26 million people with a substance
abuse disorder and less than 10 percent were getting treatment, even though I
had been an addict for 15 years and sober for 17. The reason I wrote these books
is because I became aware of how prevalent this illness is and how little
attention it was getting.
The Hepatitis C book was clearly a book written because Hep C affects a huge proportion of the people I care about. People who have had histories of drug and alcohol abuse. This is a disease that gets very little attention in the public policy world. The Center for Disease Control gets very little money for hepatitis C. It’s a silent epidemic and another issue people would rather not discuss. Many of the people that suffer from it have no political capital. They are usually indigent, under served folks who just die of liver failure. They don’t get liver transplants. These are the reasons I did these books. I hope they are helpful. There are a couple other recovery books I want to do, one involving the family and kids, and something on the humorous side of recovery. I’m always looking for new and exciting opportunities. I am moving on to other things but will always have a hand in recovery because there is such a need for it. For more information visit www.christopherkennedylawford.com